School Board Votes Against Selling Adams Stadium Land
Paul Womack said the land could be valuable for a future high school site.
The DeKalb County Board of Education voted Monday not to sell Adams Stadium and some of the school system's adjoining land, possibly because it could serve a future high school that would relieve already overburdened classrooms in the area.
The board voted 6-1 to keep the land off North Druid Hills Road, which was recently appraised at about $18 million, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Atkinson said last week that she had no immediate buyer for the Adams Stadium property, but wanted to put it in circulation. “You know there’s always interest,” she told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, “but until you go through the process and you really sit down and somebody’s ready to sign on the dotted line, I never say there’s a buyer.”School board chairman Eugene Walker said DeKalb no longer needed the property nor the adjacent International Student Center.
Read the rest of the AJC story for more information.
Discussion of the sale began over the summer when the school board was debating serious budget cuts. Adams currently serves as a number schools' football teams, and the nearby shuttered Briarcliff High School is used mostly as a location for movies and television.
Should the school board sell the land? Or keep it for a future school site? Tell us in the comments section below.
Lucas Roberts
7:09 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Place is an eye sore - if the County is not going to do something with it - sell it.
If they do not, they should not say anything about the budget shortfalls.
Jim Bobber
8:05 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The old, 'we don't want to sell it because we *might eventually* do something useful with it' line.
They need to sell it. We all saw the articles about the horrific money mismanagement and accounting related bungling that cost the tax payers millions. Seemingly, selling this land would help rectify things.
Don Broussard
9:50 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
If the operating principal is to sell off every "eyesore" there's a long list to go through before we get to Adams Stadium. Neither of the two gentlemen below seem to care that the proposal includes a 3,000-seat football / soccer / track stadium — that is currently shared by at least 4 high schools! How and where are you going to replace that? Do either of you know the price tag of a new stadium? (about $15 million) -- or a new high school (about $55 million)? You both are out of your depth. We are all mad at the school system and Brd of Ed. Don't let emotions cloud your judgement.
Don Broussard
9:52 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Pardon, I am addressing Roberts and Bobber's comments above -- not below.
Lucas Roberts
10:04 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Don
I totally hear what you are saying. I guess I am still thinking about when Sembler Co. proposed a small city of stores, restaurants, offices and homes there. The taxes and development would be where I would say the 15 million would come from.
Don Broussard
10:25 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I understand. We can re-visit what might have or should have happened with the Sembler offer made over four years ago but that is not the offer on the table now according to the AJC story. My point is the stadium is valuable and needs up-grading. Replacing it would be extremely difficult and expensive. The two schools in the front however are not in use and selling them is a different issue. But growth in our area may mean we ought to "land bank" them and hold them in reserve as I believe Paul Womack stated.
Jim Bobber
10:16 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Each school is already able to host soccer and track (since they already have fields and quarter mile tracks), thus we're only left with the football issue.
We're in tough economic times, made tougher by financial incompetence. I see no need for a new stadium for those that share Adams. Should be possible to hold their games elsewhere, or even work out a deal with a private school with a stadium (eg. Marist, or perhaps even at Decatur stadium).
Don Broussard
1:56 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Football is a real issue — and using Marist's stadium is not a realistic option. Decatur is only slightly more feasible — but a long shot for financial and scheduling reasons. If you want to propose suspending football at DeKalb high schools, well good luck with that.
Cheryl Miller
10:40 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Every year that we let those buildings crumble, we will lose money on the building value side. Is the hope that the land value alone (minus demolition costs) will someday surpass the land plus building value now? Has anyone projected how many years it might take before that will happen?
I understand Womack's thoughts about it someday being valuable, but that's a good reason for someone to pay a decent price for it right now. We are not in the land investment business here. This is the education business. If it isn't helping education now, hasn't been helping in the recent past and we have no way of proving that it will help education in the future, then sell it. The school system could have avoided a lot of layoffs and kept class sizes lower if that money could have come into play this year.
I'd rather see my tax dollars spent on teachers, media specialists and para-pro's than upkeep for a building sitting empty. Let those other schools use the new Lakeside High stadium or Tucker High. Both are nearby and probably under utilized considering what we've spent to refurbish them.
Don Broussard
1:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
By your logic, we should sell every unused school site -- so goodbye Medlock Elementary. That is probably not a good idea. Plus: you should know that neither Lakeside nor Tucker have stadiums. They use Adams.
Lucas Roberts
2:10 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I’m for the sale. How about it is sold with the stipulation that the football stadium is either saved or re-constructed with participation of football programs input.
Amy Parker
7:01 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Lakeside does not have a stadium. Tucker does not have a stadium, nor Druid Hills, nor Cross Keys. Henderson and Shamrock/Druid Hills Middle Schools use Adams as well - six schools share, if not more. They are used for soccer as well as football.
DeKalb County can't use the City of Decatur's property, nor can they use a private school's property. I don't know where any of the posters above got the notion that there was a stadium at any of these other nearby schools. There are practice fields and some have baseball fields. Lakeside has a wonderful baseball field paid for mostly by their booster club. Part of the usefulness of the existing location is the large parking lot at the old high school. Parking is essential for a stadium. I don't believe the old Briarcliff High is crumbling. It has been a frequent movie set in the past years - Adams stadium starred as well. Perhaps we could find out how much money it has rented out for?
A lot of the land behind the stadium is not part of the school. There is a private business and a county swimming pool down the road between the stadium and the former Kittredge ES building that are not owned by DCSS.
Jim Bobber
8:16 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
"DeKalb County can't use the City of Decatur's property, nor can they use a private school's property."
Do you have a legal citation to support this? Granted, it does not take place currently, but money talks, and with the proper negotiations I'd wager that either could occur.
Jonathan Cribbs
8:41 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Just chiming in to answer a small detail question. The school has been rented out for just north of $1,000 a day to MTV for its "Teen Wolf" show.
Don Broussard
5:55 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
@Jim Bob, you want to sell Adams Stadium, which is completely paid for and serviceable, so that we can write (large) checks to The Marist School, one of the wealthiest private schools / student communities in metro Atlanta, for the privilege of using their stadium? That may satisfy your desire to disassemble the public school system, but it will not save tax money over the long haul. Plus, do you seriously think Marist will rent their stadium out so Stephenson, SW DeKalb, Clarkston, etc. can play games there Thur, Fri, and Saturdays? Right...
Jim Bobber
9:53 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
What are you implying Don? That Marist doesn't want blacks on their campus? Why is the wealth or lack thereof of Marist remotely relevant? You're letting personal biases affect and cloud your decision-making ability.
A time value of money analysis would likely yield that the millions gained by selling the site (and interest made from said monies) would more than outweigh payments to Marist (or Decatur or some similar stadium holder).
With Maristphobic sentiments like that, it is you Don that is 'out of your depth'.