Lakeside City Alliance Nears $30K Fundraising Goal

The cityhood group has scheduled a second public fundraiser at Oak Grove's Taqueria El Vecino on June 4.

The Lakeside City Alliance is quickly nearing its $30,000 fundraising goal, the cityhood study group said last week.

The group, which has held several fundraisers since it announced its formation in February, has more than $20,000 in its coffers, according to a posting on its Facebook page Friday.

The group also plans to hold a second public fundraiser at Taqueria El Vecino in Oak Grove from 6:30 p.m. - 8 p.m. on June 4.

It expects to reach its $30,000 goal by June 30. The money will go toward a study by the University of Georgia or Georgia State University that will determine the feasibility of the alliance's proposed city, which reaches from North Druid Hills north to Northlake and east to parts of northern Tucker.

For more information on the alliance and other cityhood movements in the area.

Georgia May 13, 2013 at 06:43 PM
My prediction: Mary Margaret Oliver's meeting is the first in a strategic effort to sabotage LCA. A blog poster a couple of weeks ago stated that Bob Lunsted (Boyer's chief of staff) drew Tucker's map! MMO and company collaborating with Tucker and others to torpedo the effort. Just like they did with Brookhaven, the county government, officials and elected officals will be in cahoots to stop LCA's efforts. That meeting - just like the Tucker meetings - are an effort to undermine LCA and any other serious efforts by "discussing" all the other last minute city bills, and use all of their powers to show how great DeKalb County, Tucker, etc. are. Notice the more visible police presence? Look for that, park cleanups, road work, etc. in the next months and year.
Tom Doolittle May 13, 2013 at 07:01 PM
RR: The way to avoid "conflicted" to the extent that other interests have a voice (as in last week's meeting) in this Corridor is to make the LCA map smaller. Otherwise, just acquiesce to the fact that the issue will be very complicated and possibly longer than 18 months. BTW--you really don't need to apologise to me--I'm not asking anyone to agree with me. I'm just a bystander with an opinion that stands at face value. Also, unlike many people, I have no dog in this fight, have no interest but a complete process that takes as much time as is needed to reach a level of unanimity that won't split this community after everything is said and done. I can't see how that would be threat to anyone that places public trust above all else.
Jordan Fox May 13, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Georgia, there are a couple of major flaws in your conspiracy theory: 1) Elaine Boyer is a Republican; the only Republican on the DeKalb County Board of Commissioners. She was outspoken in favor of Brookhaven becoming a city. I don't see her being against Lakeside. She is just trying to protect Tucker, which is her district. 2) MMO is also not against cityhood. She just wants there to be a better and fairer process to govern the formation of cities. She wants to eliminate commercial land grab and split neighborhoods that have characterized some cityhood movements.
Georgia May 13, 2013 at 09:17 PM
Jordan, It's a prediction, not a conspiracy theory. Brookhaven YES has documentation that county officials specifically worked with Brookhaven opponents to try to thwart their efforts. Boyer may be a Republican, but she wants to hold on to whatever power she has. She's also commissioner to many of the residents in the LCA outside the Perimeter (and some inside) who WANT to be part of a new city - not Tucker CDP or Tucker city - so how's she looking out for them? MMO is not against cityhood? Are you serious? Look at proposed HB22. I'll grant you that she is for incorporating all of unincorporated DeKalb into a city - "If I were authorized personally, I would design new cities for all the county that would fairly distribute the population and tax base at one time, and allow citizens to vote on a comprehensive plan–a possible goal of HB 22." Take a look at this blog post on DeKalb School Watch, and read through entirely, particularly MMO's response and her history of action. http://dekalbschoolwatch.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/dekalb-county-residents-in-abusive-relationship/
Lou May 13, 2013 at 09:24 PM
There would be more contributions for the cityhood movement if there were reassurance that those in 30345 could keep their "Atlanta" addresses. I know several people who are withholding any contributions for this reason. I would consider contributing but will not for fear of my address becoming "Lakeside (substitute other names), Georgia." Such an address might as well be on the Alabama or Florida line. I and many others moved here because we would have a recognizable address. Until this is addressed, I will not support cityhood--and I would love to see this area take the first step toward separation from the DeKalb School System. It is broken beyond fixing and I say this from observation for the past 40 years and from having taught on a higher level in the county for almost that long.
Georgia May 13, 2013 at 09:49 PM
Lou, all residences and businesses who have a 303__ zip code are designated as Atlanta addresses by the Postal Service. This will not change. Therefore, you can have your mail addressed to Atlanta, Miami, Los Angeles, Timbuktu - and as long as your zip cod is 303__, it will arrive at your home. So, when incorporated, there is no reason that you could not use Atlanta as city name.
RandyRand May 13, 2013 at 10:02 PM
In a discussion about this very subject yesterday, my sister who lives and has a small business in Sandy Springs, told me that after incorporation she recieved a letter asking her to make a choice between having her address read Sandy Springs or Atlanta! This is a NON issue!
Lou May 13, 2013 at 11:15 PM
I have heard all of that, RandyRand and Georgia--in fact from you once before, Randy. It's not a question of whether the mail will eventually be directed to my mailbox via zipcode. I know that could happen. What I'm saying is I want to see it from authority and get reassurance that the official address of this "Lakeside" and any other names selected will not be my OFFICIAL address. Johns Creek is no longer Alpharetta and Dunwoody (in spite of its 303 zip) is Dunwoody and not Atlanta. So let's have the Lakeside group get out this info about the new city's OFFICIAL address and in writing and publicly advertised if they want more donations. Again, my question is what will the new city's OFFICIAL address be?? I know I can use Savannah or Miami 30345 and get my mail but that's not my question and concern.
Kay Clark May 14, 2013 at 01:30 AM
For the most part I agree. I bought my home in Atlanta, in Dekalb, in 30345 and in Georgia because I wanted to live under those designations. Those who don't want to live under these designations should be the ones to find a place that better suits their preferences, not make the rest of us change. Until these new "cityhood" movements can provide full city service departments - not just a couple of privatized services - there is no viable "city" to be had,
Richard Rogers May 14, 2013 at 02:21 AM
I guess the many of us that are against this idea will have to give up our hard earned money to fight this horrid idea.
Longerthanu May 14, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Actually, none of us who live in 30345 bought homes in Atlanta in DeKalb. We bought homes in unincorporated DeKalb with a postal designation of Atlanta. There are parts of Atlanta that are in DeKalb, but this isn't one of them. Our Atlanta postal designation is entirely up to the U.S. Postal Service. My biggest fear is that we'll all get stuck with a City of DeKalb, which would bring us nothing but another layer of the same DeKalb County government we have now, with no recourse but to move. I like my neighborhood. I'm very disappointed in what DeKalb government has become.
HamBurger May 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Ms. Georgia, Brookhaven Yes would have you believe that folks opposed to the creation of Brookhaven were in cahoots with the county. This is simply not true. DeKalb County answered questions and supplied information to no folks when requested about county operations. They made no attempt to intervene. DeKalb tried to reach out to Brookhaven Yes including Rep. Mike Jacobs on more than one occasion and were rejected each time. If you want to create your own city, you may want to make sure you have a high majority of citizen desire for cityhood or you will have a Brookhaven on your hands with plenty of unhappy citizens. Better yet, why don’t you just move to Dunwoody or Brookhaven? Please pass the yellow mustard!
Tom Doolittle May 14, 2013 at 01:09 PM
Longer-man: The only way a Republican legislature would vote for a City of DeKalb would be as a punitive move--this time against the people, not the coumty government. They would justify it by being pissy and any area not voting for a new small city deserves what it gets from Democrats. (Thats why a civic leadership group across the whole Corridor needs to establish its legitimacy as a representative and provide a clear public opinion that goes beyond "yes/no" for one city concept--we absolutely cannot let legislators fight this in out in a partisan fashion or one of "deal-making"). Fact is, due to clearcut affiliation, both in community identity and more unanimity of history and purpose (probablity of a "yes" vote) a new city government of about 25,000 hubbed around a few commercial centers (possibly Toco, Northlake, Tucker, Oak Grove) might be a slam dunk if: (1) You made them more complete cities--three departments doesn't make a city (2) You gave time for a civic leadership group to develop and engage-- better understanding and a clear plan (3) You had more legislators involved (4) You had a unique vision for being (not a reason based on fear of a "bad" county govt)
cbr 1965 May 14, 2013 at 01:12 PM
I guess I am just confused as to why it matters what the city name is since you can still use Atlanta on any correspondence as a mailing address. What does an "official" Atlanta address get you that is different from just using Atlanta (regardless of what the official address is)? I really want to understand why it is important because I must be missing something. Is an Atlanta address more prestigious? The 404 area code says Atlanta much more than any mailing address. I understand that you want an Atlanta mailing address. I am just trying to understand what makes it important. I grew up in 30345 (Atlanta) and now live in 30033 (Decatur) and always thought it was disingenuous to have those addresses because I never actually lived in either of those cities. I also lived in Dunwoody for 10 years and always used Atlanta as my mailing address. When we sold our house and moved, I discovered we were actually in a Doraville zip code but it had never come up before. I truly just want to understand the rationale.
RandyRand May 14, 2013 at 01:32 PM
Examples of a horrid ideas: Selecting Dekalb county school Superintendents based on skin color rather than proven education leadership success. (Thank you former School Board) Attempt to ban all new coal fired power plants in Georgia. (Thank you Mary Margret Oliver) To continue assuming that Dekalb County will somehow change for the better without competition from city provided options. (Richard Rogers and few others) Example of a prudent and thoughtful idea: Volunteers’ raising money to buy an unbiased factual economic feasibility study on the possibility of cityhood formation. (LCA and supporters)
Roberto May 14, 2013 at 07:08 PM
You better hurry and donate before its too late: $ - You get your comment read at a community meeting $$ - You get your subdivision added (or deleted) from the next map $$$ - You get to be a LCA board member [and guaranteed future City councilperson] $$$$$ - The big one -- Name that CITY!
Lou May 14, 2013 at 09:17 PM
cbr 1966: To answer your question from my perspective and I dare say from the perspective of many of us long-time residents of 30345. Yes, Atlanta is a more prestigious address. Ask anyone outside the state of Georgia: Which city/town name or potential name do you recognize: Tucker? Doraville? Oak Grove? Lakeside? LaVista? Briarcliff? Atlanta?? It's the latter, hands down--known world-wide.
Longerthanu May 15, 2013 at 02:13 AM
The real deal about "Atlanta" is that it's also generic for the entire metro area. It kinda loses its cache when it's used by people from Norcross -- and it is as soon as you get outside of Atlanta. Anybody and everybody uses Atlanta as their hometown. We're all from here, address or not. Same is true for every major city I've lived in.
Lou May 15, 2013 at 03:06 AM
To "Longerthanu": That just proves my point: They say they're from "Atlanta" because it's a known entity--and quite well known. However, if those from Norcross use Atlanta as their address, they won't get their mail!
HamBurger May 15, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Lou, here in Brookhaven I use Jacobsville for my city. The key is your street and your zip code. Those two items on an envelope will get your mail to you regardless of what your geographical area is called. Please pass the yellow mustard!
John May 15, 2013 at 12:52 PM
An example of how cities waste tax money. How many 100's of thousands of tax dollars is it going to cost to fight this only to lose. http://brookhaven.patch.com/articles/pink-pony-sues-city
HamBurger May 15, 2013 at 01:28 PM
Mr. John, not to mention that Brookhaven is based on a flawed Vinson study and the budget is stretched as it is. That is why the roll-out of the city will be taking longer than expected. Throw in a healthy lawsuit and the city will have a serious budget problem to deal with. So, what do city leaders do in response to this lawsuit? Why they double down, bring in their Chattown adult entertainment specialist attorney, and pass emergency codes that will compound the problem. What we have here are a bunch of folks used to running HOA’s that have no clue as to how government works much less how to run a city. And, they have a city attorney married to seven cities that has positioned himself well advising his clients in a manner that rewards him handsomely. The results? A new dysfunctional city in a dysfunctional county with a dysfunctional school system. You would think intelligent people would clean up their county government and school system. Then if warranted, create their new cities! Man! After that I need a special hamburger and a Cheerwine!
Tom Doolittle May 15, 2013 at 04:56 PM
So early going after the big Buford Hwy overhaul. We know know what cityhood is all about--for sure with Brookhaven, but possibly all but Sandy Springs. Maybe Sandy Springs is the only legitimate new city afterall--in other words, keeping the People the priority and delivering COMPREHENSIVE services. None of this luke-warm, toe in the water three services nonsense to get a city name on a sign--and also give you REDEVELOPMENT (bonds bonds and more bonds) POWERS. I would have thought--MAYBE the Development Authorities would be a good idea after a while, when the city proves itself capable of growing services. However with Brookhaven moving forward with shock and awe on zoning simulataneous wit starting a development authority--they showed their slip-and begs looking into the other cities. I am very concerned now about agendas, where I wasn't before. I wonder if our Re-develpment authority will be formed within six months (before a police captain is hired like Brookhaven)? Obviously we want Northlake Parkway cleaned up, but I'd hate to think bringing in new money was the real driver here.
Longerthanu May 15, 2013 at 06:38 PM
They will get their mail, as long as their street number, name and zip code are on there. The street name doesn't even have to be spelled correctly. The Posties are pretty darned good a figuring it out, as long as the zip code is correct. You wouldn't believe some of the envelopes from summer camp that reached home when our kids were young.
Lou May 15, 2013 at 06:42 PM
Hamburger, I hope you are happy with your fake address of Jacobsville (not that I believe it for a second). As for me, I just want to continue with the address I bought into forty years ago--a real one and one known world-wide. For those who don't like it, let THEM move elsewhere. All these postings, mostly saying the same thing are common knowledge and do not address my concern.
Longerthanu May 15, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Honestly, I don't get your concern. Your home will still be in DeAlb County and you can still use Atlanta as your mailing address. You can still even tell people you live in Atlanta, even though you don't -- and haven't for all these years, just like me.
rwf May 16, 2013 at 11:43 PM
Make a donation towards the feasibility study through the purchase of an LCA car magnet at: http://cityoftuckerinitiative.blogspot.com/2013/05/donate-to-tucker-together.html
Fran May 17, 2013 at 03:42 PM
Funny, rwf, redirecting to the Tucker Together donation page. Donations for the Lakeside City Alliance study can be made at http://lakesidecityalliance.org/donate-today/
rwf May 17, 2013 at 06:19 PM
And we give you a hardy 'Thank You, Fran!', for your order of two 'LCA Auto Magnetos'. They are sure to become collector's items!
Roberto May 21, 2013 at 07:10 PM
Best looking because of the amount of male cow droppings being spread around.


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