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New Lakeside Cityhood Map Includes Sagamore Hills, Leafmore

The Lakeside City Alliance's second map falls as far south as North Druid Hills Road and includes Toco Hill Shopping Center.

The Lakeside City Alliance released its second proposed map for a new city in northern DeKalb County on Tuesday, and its new boundaries include Sagamore Hills, Leafmore and the Toco Hill commercial corridor.

Those areas were previously left out of the alliance's proposed map because organizers said those areas – Sagamore and Leafmore – were having their own cityhood conversations, and the alliance didn't want to interfere. The map also leaves out the Century Center commercial area along Clairmont Road west of I-85 that had previously been included.

The map also extends north – within the boundaries of I-85 and I-285 – to include the Mercer University area.

The alliance, which is meeting with residents Tuesday night at Briarlake Baptist Church for its second public hearing, has emerged over the last month to dominate local discussion about cityhood in the North Druid Hills-Briarcliff area.

Here is the full statement from the alliance regarding its second map:

ATLANTA, Feb. 25, 2013--- The Lakeside City Alliance (LCA), a non-profit citizens group studying the possibility of establishing a new city in north DeKalb County, has released a revised city map today after receiving feedback from the community. The revised boundaries include the areas in between Interstate 85 on the west, North Druid Hills Road to the south, and Chamblee-Tucker Road on the north and east.

The new boundaries would encompass a city of approximately 60,000 residents. In announcing the release of the revised map, Alliance Chairman Mary Kay Woodworth noted that the revised boundaries represent the Alliance’s efforts to ensure that that the map reflects the desires of the community of interest that encompasses the proposed city.

“We have been listening to our fellow residents since our first meeting and exchanged ideas through emails, telephone calls and various social media outlets,” Woodworth said. “We have made some significant changes from our first draft based on the feedback that we have been getting and look forward to continuing to fine-tune the map in the weeks and months ahead.”

Woodworth noted that the LCA is hosting a public meeting Tuesday, Feb. 26 from 7 to 8:30 p.m. at Briarlake Baptist Church on LaVista Road to hear additional input from the community. Information about the meeting can be found on the LCA website (www.lakesidealliance.org).

In regards to the revised map, Woodworth added: “It’s exciting to see so much interest and support in this community for this proposal, and I look forward to keeping the conversation going as we move ahead with our study.”

Additional information about the Lakeside City Alliance and the revised map can be found at LCA’s Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/LakesideCityAllianceGa), (www.lakesidealliance.org) and Yahoo! Group: (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lakesidealliance)

Check out Patch's Lakeside Cityhood page for all coverage of this issue.

What do you think of the revised map? Tell us in the comments section below.

Lucas Roberts February 26, 2013 at 11:17 AM
These lines are a lot better than last. This feels more like the community. We should just drive for one city movement. The "other" is not even having a first meeting til mid March. This is the school we want, and the places we shop. Should be a good one tonight.
Herman Lorenz February 26, 2013 at 01:57 PM
This is a great step forward. There are a lot of individual elements that might be arguable, but I think we're getting close to a really good outline. Hope everyone comes to the meeting tonight!
Don Broussard February 26, 2013 at 02:01 PM
The second map by the Lakeside City "Alliance" is an improvement because it tries (though fails) to copy the North Druid Hills Study Group map. Despite their effective website and press releases, the Alliance has thus far been a closed group drawing up maps in private without talking to people who actually live in the affected neighborhoods. LCA dropped Century Center because people were torching them on the web for their blatant tax/land grab. The North Druid Hills Study Group has been meeting since January and continues to talk with civic association leaders in the Civic Association Network, which has a long and trusted history in our area.
Fran February 26, 2013 at 02:27 PM
Don, you are incorrect on all points (except regarding their effective website and press releases). The organizing committee met with DECA/Clairmont Terrace boards to discuss the amended map, as well as other residents and groups. When will you have a public meeting, rather than trying to hijack LCA's?
kudzuqueen February 26, 2013 at 03:43 PM
The second map makes more sense to me. I live in the area between Clairmont and North Druid Hills and have no clue about what Lindbergh-LaVista may be considering. Rumors float around--ie--Emory is contemplating cityhood, for one. The proposed annexation of land around North Decatur into the city of Decatur also makes me wonder what is going on. Toco Hill is a 'pretty nice' commercial area to include in a future City of Lakeside. I would prefer the City of Briarcliff but that is not an issue.
JuliaMcElroy February 26, 2013 at 03:57 PM
Until the LCA meeting, Sagamore/Leafmore didn't even know the North Druid Hills Study group existed! CAN might be a good group but they have never communicated with neighborhood citizens directly. At least LCA has been more public and transparent about what their plans are! I wish both groups would join together to create an ITP-only city.
Bill Lowe February 26, 2013 at 07:35 PM
The new city should be called BriarHills. Combination of Briarcliff and Druid Hills. You could do a LaVista, Briarcliff, and Druid Hills combo, but it just sounds strange. BriarVistaHills. LaBriarHills. Eh. City should really take all the unincorporated land left inside the perimeter from the City of Decatur and City of Atlanta North and not extend beyond 285. This will leave room and revenue for Tucker to incorporate in the future.
Kate February 26, 2013 at 07:57 PM
I am confused. We are closing Thur on a house in the area and it says 'Decatur'. Would that go away if this Cityhood takes hold. What does it mean? We live in another county so I have no clue what is happening. Should we go to the meeting tonight?
Jamie February 26, 2013 at 09:11 PM
I agree with Bill. There is a big swath of neighborhoods that are always forgotten by these "cities". If you want the revenue from the commercial areas, the residential areas surrounding those revenue generating plazas should be absorbed as well. My son's school would be absorbed, but not my street. Come on!
BeerMe February 26, 2013 at 09:31 PM
Ditto with Bill and Jamie. IF, and I say IF, folks feel that breaking up DeKalb piecemeal is a better means to the end of better services, then the only fair thing to do is include up to the city limits of Atlanta & Decatur. LCA calls Toco Hill "their shopping center", but what about all of the n'hoods surrounding Toco Hill who are NOT included in their map? I imagine they feel the same way about where they shop. And, if you go to Decatur city limits, you pick up a whole lot more commercial (can you say "Walmart" ?) plus Dekalb Medical Center... Personally, I would prefer a 12 month moratorium on new cities and annexations so that residents from N. DeKalb AND from S. DeKalb would have time to work together to beat the county govt. into an organization that meets all of our expectations. We'll all lose in the end if DeKalb goes broke from lack of tax base...Big time.
Bill Lowe February 27, 2013 at 02:15 AM
Beerme: People have been trying to work together to change DeKalb County for decades. The government of DeKalb has not taken the hint with Dunwoody, or Brookhaven, and they probably will not take any further hints that may come along. DeKalb has to go for broke(literally and figuratively) to change lots of opinions about the level and quality of some services that are provided. In the Meeting tonight, the councilman from Dunwoody stated that through privatization of services that the contractors have a level of service agreement with the city. Dekalb would never sign such a thing. Here are some things that are run fine by the County---and more than likely secretly subsidized or are subsidizing other services: Sanitation, the Library System, the Fire Department, The Dresden Drive Tag Office. There are probably oher services that are run well, but I have not been impressed by them enough to throw it into this short list. Bankruptcy is one option of resetting the county back to a clean starting position. With essentially unlimited future tax increases available and lots of residents willing to pay the bill, it is not likely to happen anytime soon. We can hope for Bankruptcy though as that requires no ability whatsoever.
BeerMe February 27, 2013 at 03:55 AM
Bill, I have to equate your Bankruptcy = improvement to the current follies in DC called "The Sequestration Polka"... I've dealt with multiple administrations in Decatur, and yeah, County Govt. is pretty damn dysfunctional when you look at quality of services. I'm just suggesting that perhaps the folks in the Maloof Bldg aren't quite as intractable (or corrupt) as the BoE and might mend their ways if attention at the state level is brought, by local legislation requiring improvement in specified areas in a set timeframe (6 mo ? 12 mo ?). The only way that could happen is if ALL of the people of DeKalb rose up to threaten them. I quite readily agree that that might be beyond where the residents of DeKalb are currently, but I think the alternative is too egregious to not at least try. The downside to all of us if DeKalb goes nuclear is going to be reflected in our reputation, both locally and nationally. What company is gonna want to relocate to DeKalb if they're bankrupt or dying? What businesses are going to want to stay here if things start to get that bad ? Our housing prices are going to sink even further. How will we ever be able to work with folks from S. DeKalb on other issues like schools if they know we would just as likely leave them to hang in the wind if an alternative comes along?
Tim February 27, 2013 at 02:21 PM
Lots of little ponds, but no lakes, so the name Lakeside seems odd. I think Bill got it right with Briarhills...
Tim Cairl February 27, 2013 at 02:50 PM
I live in this area, and do NOT consider myself at all attached to anthing Lakeside. I live in Toco Hills or North Druid Hills, not Lakeside. This map is crap.
Frannie D. February 28, 2013 at 05:27 PM
Sure, it's totally cart before the horse-- just leaving this here for future discussion -- but the working name of Lakeside is a miscue on several levels. First, way too confusing for those within the map who are not part of Lakeside school system. Second, no real lakes here. "Hills" is indeed the unifying feature we share. (Toco Hills, N. Druid Hills, Leafmore/Creek Park Hills, Sagamore Hills etc.) While I am partial to the pleasant name of "Oak Grove" (being the central outreaching area), "N.Druid Hills" is appropriate too. Or Vista Grove. I suppose Briar Hills would work too, but..who likes briars? Now, back to the bigger issues at hand...
Ralph March 01, 2013 at 02:14 AM
I like the new map. I live off Midvale Road outside I-285 and am in the map area. We cosider ourselves as living in the Northlake area. We mostly shop at the Northlake grocery stores. All the major banks call their branches their Northlake Branch. Same for the other stores and commercial centers around, but not in Northlake Mall, I don't care what name is used as long as it is a normal sounding name. Northlake, Briarcliff, Lakeside, Leafmore, LaVista would be good. I just amposting this to state that areas outside I-285 are in the community of the Northlake-Briarcliff-LaVista corridor-area and want to continue to remain included in the map. I-285 is not a natural boundary. Oak Grove, Georgia also sounds good.
kudzuqueen March 02, 2013 at 03:17 PM
The name can be hashed out in the months to come. I believe I understand why 'City of Lakeside' was chosen and don't have objections to that name. Others might be good, too. Briarcliff Rd is a central thoroughfare--so it might be inclusive enough or not. Once I tried to find fyi on how the street was named but never found anything conclusive. I presume connected in some way to the Candler family. I am not really very clear about all the options. 'City of North DeKalb'--is that primarily focusing on the area around North DeKalb, Medlock Park and subdivisions on the side of North Druid Hills not included in the City of Lakeside--Merry Lane, Christmas Lane, etc?
Proud of Tucker March 08, 2013 at 03:22 AM
Not all areas outside the perimeter want to be included! I don't live far from you and I consider myself a resident of TUCKER. Lakeside should stay inside the perimeter. Can you say land grab?
Leslie Griffith March 17, 2013 at 07:07 AM
The only reason Lakeside wants to include the Toco Hill area is because of the tax base the shopping center would provide. I moved to unincorporated Dekalb for a reason. This is just another attempt to exclude parts of Dekalb from the "good" school districts.. It's just another layer of government and the only ones who will benefit will be the consultants hired by the new city to provide services.
The Scarlet Pimpernel March 19, 2013 at 07:53 PM
Way to squeeze in Rehoboth, you all make me sick..Just stay on your side of 285 and I'll stay on mine..
Scott March 23, 2013 at 02:43 PM
We are in the new area and NO ONE has contacted us about this.
Tiger Mom March 26, 2013 at 04:15 PM
I live off of Henderson near the park and I am a resident of Tucker. Tucker extends inside 285, since I work on Miontreal (behind the Kroger) and have a 30084 zip code. So extending "Lakeside" to 285 is still a stretch in my opinion. Why do we not look at zip codes, and "Lakesdide" stays out of 30084, 30081 and 30341, period. Then, if you want to live in the new city, you move there, like I moved to Tucker.

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