POLL: Should Decatur Annex Suburban Plaza?

We're interested in hearing from you guys about whether Decatur Mayor Bill Floyd's suggestion that the city annex the shopping center to influence development there is a good idea. Expression is just a mouse click away.

Last week, Decatur Mayor Bill Floyd got up, and during his State of the City address, said a bunch of things that were probably very important to the city of Decatur.

We're interested in some of that, but what interests North Druid Hills-Briarcliff Patch most is what he said about Suburban Plaza.

Specifically, that he . (He also said he wanted to annex the commercial property at the corners of North Decatur and Clairmont roads, but that's obviously secondary to our Big Fat Ol' Walmart Story.)

He's clearly not a big fan of Walmart. Or developers like Selig Enterprises. He said so. It remains unclear what effect (if any) annexation would have on Selig's plans to build a Walmart Supercenter in Suburban Plaza.

So, do you agree with him? Vote in our poll below.

Terry Smith April 04, 2012 at 12:28 PM
I think they need to build it over in Jeff Raider's back yard!!
Henry Batten April 04, 2012 at 01:15 PM
What amazes me is that no one has mentioned in all this disucssion that Suburban Plaza is slated to be a major station for the Clifton Corridor Transit Line. It is to be ground level for the light rail system. DeKalb County has been pushing this line and at the same time approved a Walmart here. Is anyone paying attention?
Jonathan Cribbs April 04, 2012 at 02:30 PM
I'm aware of both. But the county didn't "approve" a Walmart there. Based on the zoning, Walmart's technically been able to build there for (probably) decades. The only thing the county did was grant them a parking variance, which was a big deal to people who don't want the Walmart, but it was relatively insignificant based on the request and the construction plans. Besides, I'm not sure what your larger point is. That the county is preparing for the light rail by bringing in Walmart?
Henry Batten April 04, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Thanks for the clarification of what DeKalb approved. However, from what I've seen of the MARTA plans, there appears to be a conflict with the Selig plans. One doesn't seem to have taken the other into account. I don't see any coordination of planning. And Decatur should have some say in the planning if and when anyone gets around to it. I'm surprised Decatur has waited this long to attempt to annex this area.
Jonathan Cribbs April 04, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Yeah, those are definitely all good questions.
Steve April 04, 2012 at 06:54 PM
Decatur had previously consider annexing the area about 3 years ago, but dropped the idea over concerns about what impact surrounding residential areas would have on the schools system, so it's not a brand new idea.
Tom Doolittle April 05, 2012 at 03:41 AM
Henry--great point about the apparent conflict with the train station. Key--the train project is 50/50 probability and at least 10 years off. Heck--it is currently dependent on the transpo sales tax vote in November I believe. However, WalMart either will urbanize their operation or it will close in that period of time. WalMart is an evolving corporation and my guess is they and Selig (assuming Selig still owns) will work with the train planners and coordinate redevelopment of the property. Light rail stations don't take up a lot of space anyway. (BTW--heavy rail is still being considered--that of course would be devastating to any current use).
Steve April 05, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Annexing does not mean purchasing. It means that the area would fall under city zoning and would be provided city services. In general, the cost of incremental services provided to a commercial area is exceeded by the incremental taxes collected.
Henry Batten April 05, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Tom, CCTI and MARTA staff recommendation to the MARTA Board is light rail. Also, if the TIA does not pass, MARTA will seek other federal funds to construct this line. See this link: http://lindberghlavista.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/clifton-corridor-transit-initiative-announces-locally-preferred-alternative/ I do agree that this is a golden opportunity to make Suburban Plaza a more urban space. I'm not sure if Walmart knows what that means, however. Selig should.....
Henry Batten April 05, 2012 at 12:51 PM
All of the new cities in the Metro area have sought the commercial areas to pay for their services. Look at the plans for Brookhaven. Decatur's city limits stop about 2 blocks from the commercial areas that surround it on all sides. That doesn't make economical sense.
prettyflower April 20, 2012 at 06:47 PM
This is insane to me. I wonder how many people who answered this poll were City of Decatur residents and how many were North Druid Hills residents. It's really clear who is going to get the short end of this stick if annexation occurs.
Steve April 20, 2012 at 07:10 PM
If you live in the affected area, you'll have an opportunity to vote on the matter.


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